High Spirits: The Ghost Log Blog

The Stanley Is Calling

In April of 2012 I was lucky enough to be able to attend the Beyond Reality Stanley Hotel event in Estes Park, Colorado with Ellie Davis.  If you are a regular reader you are aware I work for the Sweetwater County Library which is reportedly haunted.  From time to time those of us that are hosts/tour guides for the Ghost Walks we hold are allowed to attend such events as a training tool.

Training tool? Yes, a training tool.  For those of us that are the tour guides for the local Ghost Walks, experts like those booked at the Stanley events can help us to better serve the public.  We take these opportunities to educate ourselves on the equipment and general knowledge of the paranormal.  Chip Coffee is one example.  By speaking with Chip I was able to better understand the psychic take on all things unexplained. With this information we are able to help with questions.  Many feel stuck and need help to try to understand what they are experiencing. Libraries are a great source for books and other materials that can help you with this.

After last year’s event several members of my family asked if I would be willing to revisit the Stanley Hotel event with them.  The trip was a lot of fun. I forgot how “interesting” adult males can be.  We all laughed and laughed.  I loved that they didn’t mind hanging out with their old mom or aunt.  Overall the long weekend was great.  The event was very interesting.

The celebrities that were presenting at the event were the following: From TAPS/Ghost Hunters Amy Bruni, Adam Berry, Britt Griffiths, Eric Lange from the television series LOST, Mike Brody Comedian,  Adam Blai Demonologist, John E. L. Tenney from Realm of the Weird, Chip Coffey Psychic Medium and is known for the television show Psychic Kids, Ben Hansen from Fact or Faked, and Bill Murphy from TAPS Magazine.

I have to say the presenters were all interesting but our favorite was John Tenney.  Wow, who knew!  He is one of the best public speakers I have ever listened to.  He was interesting and funny.  I wish I would have had more time to talk to him.  After his program I had the chance for a short visit but of course many others wanted a turn as well.  John Tenney is best known for his work in the paranormal and Realm of the Weird.  Check out his blog at http://realmoftheweird.com/.  I hope you find his work as interesting as I do.

Estes Park, Colorado is a beautiful destination.  If you ever have the chance be sure to visit.  Not only is it the home of the Stanley Hotel is a quaint town with many “mom and pop” shops to choose from, Christmas shops are a special find.  We all need time out from our ghost hunting to shop.  J  The town provided wildlife such as elk, mountain goats and big horned sheep.  Yes right in town.  We did not see bears but they are in the area.  You will find many eateries of all types. For me Estes Park is a place I would love to spend more time in and I am sure I will.

Am I a Ghost Magnet?

“Am I a Ghost magnet”, don’t laugh, many people do when they heard this statement.  Some people very well may be. I have a friend that works here at the library that I always say is “a ghost magnet”.  What is a ghost magnet?  As far as we are concerned a ghost magnet is some that basically always seems to attract spirits.

Are you or do you know someone like this?

Because the library seems to have spirits around from time to time, one would expect to have activity.  But…..when certain people are around there definitely is an increase of reports.  So how does this work?  First of all, I am not a professional ghost hunter.  I am a librarian that gives ghost tours of our building.  With that said, after working here for 20 years, you do learn a few things.

During last year’s Beyond Reality Ghosts at the Stanley Hotel event, the renowned psychic Chip Coffee said it best.  “If you walked into a room of friendly people and not so friendly people who would you try to talk to?”  That made sense to us.  Of course you would try to approach the friendlier person.  As for the library we have several employees that seem to be just that.  I tease Ellie Davis often that we know she is, but Bianca Jorgensen is as well.  Ellie in turn reminds me that I am too.  It is funny, I don’t always think of myself as such, but I have to admit she must be right. All three of us are tour guides and all three of us seem to have activity.

For many years as I worked with my co-workers, several would never seem to have anything happen.  Sometimes they would wait and be so disappointed.  When something did happen most times one of the “magnets” seemed to be in the building.  For me logic would state that truth is in the evidence.  Who does the most happen to? One of us.  Who makes the most reports? One of us.  Who is open or friendly towards the spirits here? Us.

There are others to be sure.  Many reports are from patrons or the general public as well.  Little children occasionally tell stories to their mommies that they have seen a man with a top hat or a lady on the stairs.  Little children apparently are more open so they do not “block” and the spirits are able to be seen.

It is very hard to explain to someone that does not believe in ghosts/spirits that these things are real.  My husband for one is a non-believer.  He believes what I report to him and he trusts me, but he has doubts of what others tell him.  As I always say seeing/hearing/feeling is believing.

If you are like us, remember to keep an open mind.  Record what happens to you. I don’t know how it all works exactly, but I know it does happen.  For me this has been an unbelievable adventure. I have seen and hear things, been touched and I have seen shadows.  And once I saw a lady at the Front Desk of the library that others said was not there.

Misconceptions about the Sweetwater County Library

Today a couple stopped by the library.  They wanted to visit with someone that knew about the history of the building and the supposed haunting.  They had a lot of questions for me. I always love the standard….”you are going to think I am crazy, but…..”.  My answer is, “You came to the right place.”

After talking to the couple it dawned on me that many people seem to get our story a bit wrong.  I would like to take this opportunity to set the record straight.

*We are not built over an old Indian/Native American graveyard.  The SWCL is built on the site of the old Green River City cemetery.

*If and when reports are made it is not just by the custodial/maintenance staff. Many reports are many by various staff members and the public.

*Do things only happen at Halloween or in October? The answer is no. Although that does seem to be a time when there are several things reported we get reports all year round.  We have not been able to pin down a “best” time of year or time of day.

*Do books fly through the air? I know of one report where one book actually came out of its place on the shelf, hung in the air and dropped.  We have a few reports of books falling off shelves and even a whole shelf of books falling.  This does not happen often, only rarely.

*Do you do séances or use Ouija boards at the library? There has never been a séance in the building to my knowledge.  We do not allow Ouija boards at the library. One time a group of high school kids snuck one in and apparently soon after they all got scared and came running out of a back area.  We are not sure what exactly happened.

*Why do you try to make the ghosts mad? Answer, we don’t.  We have a strict “no provoking” rule.  Anyone trying to do so or even being disrespectful will be asked to leave.

*You guys add to the Ghost Walks don’t you?  This usually means are you making these things happen.  The answer is not to our knowledge.  Paranormal things have happened in the building since before most of the staff started working here. We do not play tricks on the public or enhance the evidence in any way.  We do enlarge photos or lighten or darken them, but we never Photoshop or add to the images. You get what you get.  If there is evidence we share it, if there is not we tell you that also.

*Is the staff the only ones to have things happen?  We aren’t.  A good share of the reports, are turned in by patrons and the public in general.

* Can I bring my two year old?  No.  This is not a funhouse/spook alley.  It is not a Halloween gag.  It is the real deal.  The building is built on the site of the old cemetery and there does seem to be “spirits/ghosts” around.  We have no control on what they do or when they do them.  We have had younger children attend some time ago, but due to a few probelms we  had to raise the age limit to 15.  Small children cry when they get tired and some younger children want to act out and it disrupts the hunt.

Overall, here is a basic rundown of how things work at the library.  We do not add to the Ghost Walks or what happens at the library.  It is not a spook alley/Halloween trick. We take our Ghost Walks and reports seriously.  Those of us that do the Ghost Walks try to debunk as much as possible and we try to keep informed on technology whenever we can. By educating ourselves we can better serve the public.  A few of the staff have attended ghost hunting seminars just to learn the ins and outs, the do’s and don’ts.  It is for the public, our patrons we do this.

Please join us in one of our upcoming Ghost Walks to see for yourself if the Sweetwater County Library is in fact haunted.

Next Ghost Walk tickets go on sale May1st 9am for the May 18^th Ghost Walk.

For more information call 307-875-3615.  Hope to see you there.

New Ghost Hunting App from Jason Hawes and TAPS

Jason Hawes has done it again.  According to his official website he is an author, ghost hunter and plumber.  What a guy.  If you are one of the few people in the world that does not know who Jason Hawes is I will be happy to explain. 

Jason Hawes is the founder of TAPS or The Atlantic Paranormal Society.  He and co-founder Grant Wilson put together a team of researchers to basically work for us.  Their goal is to help with all things paranormal.  We thank them all for their dedication and hard work.

New app:  http://www.jasonhawes.com/announcements/how-taps-app-works-and-why 

App is available for Android and Apple systems here  TAPS App-http://tapsapp.com/fwhapps/

Why a new app for Ghost Hunting?  According to Jason Hawes it is the expense for equipment.  Now with this new app we can all afford to ghost hunt.  Thanks Jason!

From the TAPS website:

TAPS promises to bring professionalism, personality, and confidentiality to each case we investigate. We understand that it is tough to call someone like us, and we respect your right to privacy.

We bring recording devices to your home to capture evidence of paranormal activity, but they are only used with the homeowner’s permission. We will not share or publish any of the media or any details of the case outside of the close-knit TAPS group. More sensitive cases will be dealt with by the founders and be held under the most strict confidence.

We are not amateurs. We have had extensive experience. Part of what we have learned is the psychology of making someone feel comfortable during these times of fear and uncertainty. We will bring a level headed and comfortable atmosphere into your home, in essence, taking care of the most important thing, your discomfort. We will then help you to understand some of the nature of the problem supplying you with the information to understand why this is happening and how little danger is actually involved. We will listen to your experiences and concerns. Then we will set up equipment and begin trying to recreate and debunk personal experiences in an attempt to find good evidence either for or against paranormal activity. We will then share our findings with you and come to a conclusion.

You are welcome to copies of any of the recorded media and our phones are open to you should you continue to need comfort or help.

We do this free of charge. We will not accept any money for this service whatsoever. Any expenses which may arise are covered by the team.

Remember, though we like to have fun, we understand the fear and the seriousness of your situation. We are after all, normal people. Heck, I don’t think we even watch Star Trek. ha ha ha.

So, if you are having trouble dealing with paranormal influences in your life, contact TAPS, and we will commit to do our very best to help you.

If you have read this blog long, you will know that I personally love TAPS and what they do.  For many years now my family and I have watched Ghost Hunters every Wednesday night.  What started out as entertainment has now become a tool for me. They have helped me to understand the paranormal more and I have learned the importance of the equipment and debunking.  I work at the Sweetwater County Library in Green River, Wyoming.  Since the day it was built there have been reports of paranormal activity.  The library was built on the grounds of what was the old city cemetery. 

For twenty years now I have maintained the official Ghost Log.  We now do Ghost Walks and special events related the reports and activity.  For more information please give us a call at 307-875-3615.

The 2013 Ghost Walk Schedule

It’s official.  The Ghost Walk Schedule is done. 

Thank you to all of you that have been asking for the updates. 

We have a surprise for you this year.  If you will note, on September 7^th, PI Team of Utah will be our guest speakers for an afternoon event. PI Team of Utah comes to us from the Ogden, Utah area.  They will explain how ghost hunting works and how they do it. At the end of the program I will do a short presentation on the Sweetwater County Library and then there will be an auction. 

For what you may ask.   A private Ghost Walk.

The lucky winner will win four tickets for their own private Ghost Walk which will take place on October 25^th.  For all of you that have been requesting a chance for a private Ghost Walk, here is your big chance.  The money raised will be donated to the Sweetwater County Library System Foundation.  We are so pleased and excited to bring this new event to the patrons.

About PI Team of Utah

The P.I. Team of Utah has been conducting paranormal investigations throughout the West since 2003. As one of the most recognized and well respected groups in the field, the P.I. Team has conducted countless investigations from local residences to large scale haunted locations in the region.

P.I. Team members network extensively in the paranormal field and are continually researching to confirm the methodology and technology used within P.I. Team investigations is top notch. With this the team is able ensure the best possible service to our clients and provide reliable information to the public.

As a proud TAPS family member all P.I. Team members complete extensive training, evaluations, and background checks prior to receiving the title of investigator. The team takes great pride in conducting professional and through investigations for our clients as well as comprehensive engagements within the community. The P.I. Team of Utah is a 501(c)3 non-profit organization (educational) and never charges fees of any kind for their investigations.

For more information on the PI Team of Utah please visit http://www.piteamofutah.com/

Also on the schedule is the 2^nd Annual Ghosts of Christmas Past. Once again we will happy to provide the participants with decadent desserts, entertainment and of course a Ghost Walk.  It should be a grand event.  Please note: The price of ticket sales has changed.  Regular Ghost Walk tickets will now be $10 each and Ghosts of Christmas Past $25 each.  All sales are final and non-refundable.

Tickets go on sale:          

May 1st for May 18th tickets for Regular Ghost Walk

 Sept. 3rd for Sept. 21st tickets for Regular Ghost Walk

 Oct. 1st for Oct. 26th tickets for Regular Ghost Walk

Nov. 1st for Dec. 7th Ghosts of Christmas Past

We hope you will join us for one or all of the events this year. 

Hope to see you there!

Night at the Museum with PI Team of Utah

On February 15^th my friend Shannon Fetch and I were lucky enough to be asked to attend the Night at the Museum in Ogden, Utah.  The event was hosted by PI Team of Utah as a fund raiser for their good friend and team member that recently passed away.  Two well known celebrities in the ghost hunting world were in attendance Joe Chin of TAPS/Ghost Hunters and Ben Hansen of Fact or Faked. 

The event consisted of several presentations, a dinner and a ghost hunt in and around the old Union Station.  Both Joe Chin and Ben Hansen gave a talk about what they do and why they do it.  I found these to be very interesting.

Joe Chin is a member of the well known Ghost Hunters from the Syfy Channel and can be seen every Wednesday night.  Joe explained that he grew up with weird things happening in his life.  He always knew that there were strange thing in the house where he grew up.  He also talked about how he met Jason Hawes and Grant Wilson of TAPS/Ghost Hunters.  He was working in a hardware store and they would come in all the time and buy unusual items.  They got to talking and soon he was invited to come along. 

Ben Hansen talked mostly about why we think we see faces in what may not be true faces and why our brain tries to rationalize what we think we see, hear, and feel.  Because Ben works with all things “unknown” his knowledge runs from ghosts, to Bigfoot, to aliens.  His grandfather reportedly worked for an Air Force base.  Ben and his father tried for years to get his grandfather to tell what he knew.  He would not, until he was on his deathbed.  He stated “We are not alone”.  Interesting for sure.  In the future it seems Ben may be working on other shows besides Fact or Faked and he may be behind the camera much more.

After the dinner everyone was broken up into smaller groups and taken on a ghost tour of the building and grounds.  There were eight locations in all.  Some of the reports they have received are scratching, pinching, seeing shadows and shadow people, and hearing voices. 

I had an interesting/scary thing happen.  The group I was in was taking a break in what is known as the Gallery.  The hosts provided us with snacks and we stopped to drink some water and enjoy the goodies.  While I was sitting there drinking my water I felt a definite “pinch” on my chest.  It was one of those moments that you hurt enough to actually say out loud “ouch!”.  It occurred to me it might have been something like a spider bite, but I couldn’t see anything.  A little later on I could still feel it stinging.  We got busy continuing our tour and I forgot about it until the next morning.  As I stepped out of the shower and began to towel off I noticed a definite bruise where I felt the pain the night before.  Sure enough, I still have the bruise.  It was a strong enough “pinch” that after five days I still have the mark.   I am fine, but I will remain cautious when ghost hunting.

My friend Shannon Fetch and I would like to thank PI Team of Utah for including us in the event.

For more information on:

Union Station in Ogdenhttp://theunionstation.org/

Night at the Museum events http://theunionstation.org/index.php/calendar/night-at-the-museum/.

Specter Spectacular 13 Ghostly Tales

Ghost stories are always a hot topic at the library.  Lucky for the Sweetwater County Library one of the authors included in an exciting new book is a local library patron.  Kritina Wojtaszek has written an interesting story called Cinder which can be found starting on page 18 of the book Specter Spectacular 13 Ghostly Tales.   Be sure to stop by the library and check this

From her website:

My official Bio:
Kristina Wojtaszek grew up as a woodland sprite and mermaid, playing around the shores of Lake Michigan. At any given time she could be found with live snakes tangled in her hair and worn out shoes filled with sand. She earned a bachelor’s degree in Wildlife Management as an excuse to spend her days lost in the woods with a book in hand. She currently resides in the high desert country of Wyoming with her husband and two small children. She is fascinated by fairy tales and fantasy and her favorite haunts are libraries and cemeteries.
A Little bit more:
Growing up as an only child, imagination came out of necessity.  Picture a small girl lining up her My Little Ponies in battle formation on the lumpy, green carpet of her bedroom, little plastic dinosaurs gathered on the plateau of a dresser, ready to loose toothpick arrows at a single shout, a tiny She-Ra doll balanced precariously behind the bars of the heating vent, planning her escape from imprisonment all the while, then add in The Battle from the soundtrack of The Chronicles of Narnia (the likes of which was playing in my little mind at the time) and you’ll get an idea of the “epic fantasies” I played out for hours on end.  Once I learned how to make words on paper, I was thrilled by my teachers’ reactions to the mini books I wrote for them.  My elementary school also encouraged writing by allowing students to “publish” stories.  Once every couple of months or so the entire gym was turned into a printing press where our stories were typed up, printed out, illustrated (via magic markers) and bound and laminated.  There they were, my imaginings come to life, forever written down in a book that I could show to the world…   

Years later:
After earning a B.S. degree I hardly used, I married.  Shortly after, I began a high security, psychologically advanced position which requires a higher level of education and training than I am qualified for, but I do my best.  Its formal title?  Motherhood.
Despite this intense, more than full time career, the stories continue building in my mind.  It seems to be a part of me I can’t tune out.  So, in a few spare moments between fishing toys out to the toilet, calculating dinner:desert ratios, playing hide and seek, and looking up the French word for “poop,” I delve into books with a voracious appetite and somehow find time to expand and revise the fantasies in my head. During special holidays (i.e. naptime and bedtime) I’m actually able put these stories into word documents. 

Out of this has come:

Cinder, a short ghost story found in Specter Spectacular:13 Ghostly Tales
Opal, my twisted version of Snow White in novella form
And so much more to come!

~ Kristina Wojtaszek ~

2013 Ghost Walk Schedule and Events

Many of you have been clamoring for the new 2013 Ghost Walk Schedule.  Just this week we have set the dates to the calendar.  We look forward to another exciting year of Ghost Walks.  Our hope is that the public will continue to turn out for these events so that we will be allowed to continue to bring them to you. 

Saturday              May 18^th                              

Saturday              Sept. 21^st

Saturday              Oct. 26^th                              

Saturday              Dec. 7^th   Ghosts of Christmas Past

Ticket prices have been increased to $10 each for regular Ghost Walks. 

Ghosts of Christmas Past ticket prices have not yet been set.

Mark your calendars for September 7^th. 

Later this year we will be hosting a program with guest speakers P I Team of Utah.  The team comes to us from the Ogden, Utah area and is the Utah affiliates for TAPS.  It is always our pleasure to have the professional ghost hunting groups come to our library.  In the past PI Team of Utah have proven themselves to be very professional and are considered friends of the Sweetwater County Library. 

During the program an auction will be held for four tickets which are for a very private Ghost Walk.  Only four people and staff will be on this very special tour.  Here is your big chance for you to spend private time at the library and its inhabitants.

Sept. 7^th   Saturday     1pm-4pm   PI Team of Utah and Ghost Walk Auction 

Oct. 25^th   Saturday     Private Ghost Walk for Four

From the PI Team of Utah website:

The P.I. Team of Utah has been conducting paranormal investigations throughout the West since 2003. As one of the most recognized and well respected groups in the field, the P.I. Team has conducted countless investigations from local residences to large scale haunted locations in the region.

P.I. Team members network extensively in the paranormal field and are continually researching to confirm the methodology and technology used within P.I. Team investigations is top notch. With this the team is able ensure the best possible service to our clients and provide reliable information to the public.

As a proud TAPS family member all P.I. Team members complete extensive training, evaluations, and background checks prior to receiving the title of investigator. The team takes great pride in conducting professional and through investigations for our clients as well as comprehensive engagements within the community. The P.I. Team of Utah is a 501(c)3 non-profit organization (educational) and never charges fees of any kind for their investigations.

Please remember that tickets for all events usually go on sale one month prior.  Please watch for dates and times. 

Warning: Tickets usually sell out the first day of sale.

For more information visit our

Website at http://www.sweetwaterlibraries.com/ or

Facebook under Sweetwater County Library System

If you have questions please call 307-875-3615.

Hope to see you soon!

New on the Book Shelf-The Big Book of Ghost Stories

The Sweetwater County Library does its best to provide books of all genres.  Included are books about the paranormal.  New on our shelves is The Big Book of Ghost Stories by authors Joyce Carol Oates, Rudyard Kipling, Isaac Asimov and James Maccreigh, Saki, Oscar Wilde, H. R. F. Keating, Willa Cather and Many, Many More.

From the back cover-

The ghost story is perhaps the oldest of all the supernatural literary genres and has captured the imagination of almost every writer to put pen to the page.  Here, Edgar award-winning editor Otto Penzler has followed keen sense of the supernatural to collect the most chilling and uncanny tales.  These spectral stories span more than a hundred years, from modern day creations by Joyce Carol Oates, Chet Williamson, and Andrew Klavan, to pulp yarns from August Derleth, Greye La Spina, and M. L. Humphreys, to the atmospheric Victorian tales of Rudyard Kipling, Edith Wharton, and H. P. Lovecraft, not to mention modern works by the likes of Donald E. Westlake and Isaac Asimov that are already classics.  Some of these stories have haunted the canon for a century, while others are making their first ghoulish appearance in book form.  Whether you prefer possessive poltergeists, awful apparitions, or friendly phantoms, these stories are guaranteed to thrill you, tingle the spine, or tickle the funny bone, and keep you turning the pages with fearful delight. 

Titles included are:

Mr. Arcularis, August Heat, The Shadowy third, The Past, But at My Back I Always Hear, The Furnished Room, Death’s Warm Fireside, The Advent Reunion, the Return, the Phantom Rickshaw, The Moonlit Road, the Story of Ming-Y, Yuki-Onna, Bricket Bottom, How Fear Departed from the Long Gallery, Thing of Darkness, The House of the Nightmare, The house in Half Moon Street, A Night of Horror, The Burned House, Harry, Make-Believe, Playmates, Just Behind You, Adam and Eve and Pinch Me, The Lost Boy of the Ozarks, A Ghost Story, In at the Death, The Ghost of Dr. Harris, The Everlasting club, Legal Rites, Death Must Die, The Transferred Ghost, The Canterville Ghost, Pacific 421, The Midnight El, Punch and Judy, The Fireplace, The Night Wire, Smoke Ghost, Song of the Dead, The Dream Woman, The Adventure of the German Student, They Found My Grave, Mrs. Morrel’s Last Séance, Night-Side, Oh Whistle and I’ll Come to You My Lad, The Monkey’s Paw, The Toll-House, Afterward, Consequences, The Follower, The Corner Shop, the Terrible Old Man, The Murderer’s Violin, The Open Window, Laura, What Was It?, Full Fathom Five, He Cometh and He Passeth By, Thurnley Abbey, The Woman’s Ghost, The Angel of the Marne, The Shell of Sense, The Evenging of Ann Leete, The Dead-Wagon, A Soul with Two Bodies, the Ghosts of Steamboat Coulee, The Considerate Host, The Fifth Candle, the Return of Andrew Bentley, The Floor Above, School for the Unspeakable, Mordecai’s Pipe, He Walked by Day, Behind the Screen, Journey into the Kingdom, Mr. Soul, and Coventry Carol.

Stop by your local library where you will be sure to find many stories that appeal to your paranormal senses.

P I Team of Utah Special Event

For any of you that are familiar with the Sweetwater County Library and the reported haunting you would have heard us mention that PI Team of Utah.  They are a professional ghost hunting team from the Ogden, Utah area that is the Utah affiliate of TAPS.  PI Team of Utah has investigated the SWC Library as well as hosted a program at our location. 

Because of our close relationship with them we would like to take this time to announce to our patrons that our good friends at PI Team of Utah are hosting a fundraiser for their team member that has passed.  If you are interested in joining them for an evening of food, fun and a paranormal investigation here is your chance. 

MUSEUM AFTER DARK, A Paranormal Event and Ghost Hunt

Come join the PI Team of Utah and special guests Joe Chin from Syfy’s Ghost Hunters International and Ben Hansen from Fact or Faked, Paranormal Files for a meet-n-greet, dinner, presentation, raffle for awesome prizes and a paranormal investigation that will include areas of the station never before investigated!! Tickets went on sale January 1, 2013 @ 10 AM at www.piteamofutah.com or on PITU Facebook page.

This is a private event so there will be a limited amount of tickets available!

Location: Historic Union Station in Ogden, Utah

Dates: February 15th and 16^th    (two separate events)

Tickets are $75 per person per event.

For more information visit the PI Team of Utah website at http://www.piteamofutah.com/.

I will be attending.  Hope to see you there.